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Interview with an American Citizen, Part One:
Monday evening, August 27th, 2007, a man confronted Lindsey Graham while he was speaking at the Richland County Republican
Executive Committee meeting.
He asks not to be identified. For our purposes here, we'll refer to him simply as "American Citizen." The
interview took place over several days during the first week in September, 2007.
At the meeting, American Citizen challenged Graham on the lack of enforcement of our current laws which demand deportation
of illegals and punishment of businesses that hire illegal aliens.
(Note: I have edited the transcript for clarity with the approval of the subject.)
Interview with American Citizen, Part One:
NSC: Okay, first off: why do you wish to remain anonymous?
AMERICAN CITIZEN: Because I've seen what happens to people who speak out against entrenched politicians. I am not the
story. I don't want to be the story. I was there for all those who can't or won't speak out about things that upset them
about the way things are being run in D.C.
NSC: Why won't those people speak up?
AMERICAN CITIZEN: I think it's mostly stage fright. In many cases, they want to be liked by other people there. They
may know people at the meetings and like them and don't want to upset the apple cart. There's a lot of peer pressure in such
a situation that can be more intimidating than any threats.
They are doing everyone a disservice if they don't speak up, however. I really wish they would. I greatly admire the
party members in the upstate who censured Graham. They're living out their creed to make a difference, to not sit complacently
by nor be crassly manipulated by the likes of the traitor we have in office.
NSC: There were quite a few of his supporters there.
AMERICAN CITIZEN: Yeah, there always are at those events. Remember, it was a party function and the county parties are
full of sycophants who want to keep the status quo and will, if they disagree with things he's done in the past, rationalize
and tell themselves that he'll change or that there's no one better for the position, etc. It's pathetic, really.
NSC: I was there and I noticed that you had some in the crowd who apparently agreed with you. I was told by someone who
was able to see the audience reaction to your vocal challenges of Graham that there were many who were nodding in agreement
when you spoke up. You seem to have inspired some others to speak up as well. There was a question by someone else regarding
Graham's acceptance of an award from a group called, "The Race."
AMERICAN CITIZEN: Yes, he very politely asked his question and heard Graham's prepared response and that was it. Graham
replied in a cute manner that if other politicians go there, it just can't be a racist organization. He never really answered
the guy's question. I don't consider that very effective with the likes of Graham.
NSC: Is that why you spoke out of turn?
AMERICAN CITIZEN: Exactly. I wanted to confront him. I wanted him to address the obvious problems patriotic citizens
have with him. I don't want to hear his BS responses. I want him to have to respond instantly and not get a chance to prevaricate.
The best answer I got was his stammering under my barrage of questions. He obviously couldn't take the heat.
NSC: You couldn't have been more respectful?
AMERICAN CITIZEN: No. Graham deserves no respect. As you've thoroughly documented on your site, he and others in Congress
have repeatedly betrayed us in ways that have resulted in the loss of thousands of lives and livelihoods of US citizens.
Benedict Arnold's actions didn't cost us that many American lives, yet he's recognized for what he was. I'm just the kid
telling the emperor that he has no clothes. I'm going to point out the obvious for those who turn their heads from the truth.
I started speaking up when he started lying or glossing over the facts. He's got to find out that we don't like what
he's done and that we will most definitely NOT respect him.
NSC: I must point out here that you did not interrupt his prepared speech but waited until the Q&A session afterwards.
AMERICAN CITIZEN: Correct. As it was, he got a lot more respect than he deserves. I just thought that he needed to be
confronted about his behavior in D.C. He's been going after media attention and sucking up to John McCain so he can be his
running mate. Well, we've seen how that's gone. McCain's chances to be president were flushed down the toilet along with
the Grahamesty bill. It was a gamble on Graham's part with absolutely no thought about the people who elected him back in
2002.
I voted for him back then, too, and he's done nothing to justify our votes. In fact, he's done just the opposite. He's
been in our face about it. He thinks he's untouchable. He's arrogant and condescending. He thinks that all he has to do
is prattle off some prepared nonsense, get a few dozen of his sycophants to clap and stand up for him and he'll get re-elected.
I can't wait to see the TV commercials he'll come out with. It will be comedy of the most absurd nature. Anything he
attempts to brag about will be the ultimate in self-parody.
NSC: An example?
AMERICAN CITIZEN: Okay, let's say he wants to reassure people about his voting record on the border. He'll brag about
all the times he's voted for a secure border when he was sure it wouldn't pass. He won't mention all the times he voted against
it when it might have passed.
If you're into black comedy, it's really some hilarious stuff. Comedy writers can't come up with this. I can't wait
to hear what his pitiful excuse is when a nuke is discovered to have been smuggled across the border.
Are the lives of tens of thousands of American citizens so worthless in his view? Does he think so little of us that
he'll sacrifice us to the golden idol of the economy that he worships at? Do the slave traders in the business world call
the shots now? What will happen to his precious economy when a nuke hits just one of our cities?
What will happen to him personally if one hits D.C.? Poetic justice would call for his instant vaporization in such a
scenario. And yet they're up there--Kennedy, McCain, and Graham--just begging for their own destruction. The illegals are
a Trojan horse gift for the politicians. When the terrorists spill out, we'll all suffer.
NSC: The local rag, The State--
AMERICAN CITIZEN: I thought you called it "Der Staat?"
NSC: True. I slipped just now. Anyway, I did a double take when I read the article about Graham's appearance in Columbia
Monday. It was sure to mention a couple of standing ovations by a few dozen folks that was by no means unanimous. It didn't
really elaborate much on your comments except to say that Graham "shouted down a heckler."
AMERICAN CITIZEN: It was a typo, I'm sure. They're bad about leaving out words that cause their articles to make sense.
It should have read that he "WAS shouted down BY a heckler." I mean, there he was up there, stuttering and stammering
at one point. Sycophants in the crowd turned their heads around and hushed me on at least two occasions because they wanted
me to let him speak while he was up there choking on his own bile.
I don't see how that translates into a guy with a microphone and amplified speaker system shouting down someone when I
was obviously putting him off his game. The State loves Graham because he's a socialist-fascist like they are. They rope
him like a "maverick" with their praise and manipulate him into supporting some of their anti-American group-think.
They're doing their best right now to keep us from branding him as a traitor.
NSC: Aren't you afraid that such confrontational tactics will backfire or make people feel sorry for Graham?
AMERICAN CITIZEN: Look here: I'm a complete nobody. Did you hear that? I'm a nothing! If I were to fall into a well
tomorrow, nobody would even notice.
I work hourly wages. I have no significant assets. I have no savings for the future. I'm paying out of the nose into
a social security system to fund current retirees. It's a system that everyone says will be bankrupt by the time I retire--not
that that will stop Graham from giving foreigners equal standing in our sinking system.
I don't own a business. I'm not a "player" in the community. I don't have to impress the public at large.
I just work hard and eke out a living.
I live in a small house. I've never bought a new car in my life. I can't afford to go out much. In other words, I'm
not a good citizen according to the religion of consumerism.
If Graham can't, with his millions of dollars and government funded staff, and incumbent propaganda advantages, defend
himself against a lone voice--a nobody--I don't feel sorry for him at all. No one else should, either.
If the people who elected him are angry enough to embarrass him in public like many of us have, maybe it's time he gets
the message and goes back to the civilian life and become a gentleman farmer or something.
NSC: So, you think that, because of Graham having all the power in this situation, it justifies your speaking out to confront
him as you did.
AMERICAN CITIZEN: For all practical purposes, I'm invisible--especially to power elites like Graham. I don't count.
They've got all the power. I just wanted to be heard for a change.
Graham sends out the same blather in all his letters to me. He never reads my letters. There's just some butt-kissing
menial aide printing out letters to constituents from a computer into which my name's been added and into which a few puffy
little paragraphs are inserted that pretend to be addressing my concerns.
On the other hand, I've been able to email directly to some other politicians who answer me personally, directly, and
will give me the time of day. As far as Graham is concerned, even though South Carolina doesn't have a huge population like
some states, he doesn't have time for me. If I don't have lots of money and play golf at his club, I don't exist.
I'm the commoner and he's the patrician. How dare I speak out against him?. He brags about the millions of dollars in
his campaign as if to dare anyone to seriously challenge him. How can someone NOT get angry and NOT say something about his
treachery to him?
NSC: Do you think that Americans have become so cowardly or complacent that they will not at least look out after their
own self-interests?
AMERICAN CITIZEN: Maybe, but South Carolinians have traditionally stood up to tyranny. Mind you, I'm not asking for anything
personally. I don't want the government to give me handouts. I just want the Federal government to do its job according
to the Constitution.
It makes me sick to see politicians bragging about having made trips overseas. They don't need to go anywhere. Taxpayer
funded trips overseas do not make them more fully informed or effective. In fact, if anything, it just distracts them from
the principles involved. They get more caught up in the use of these appearances with the troops as campaign ads and forget
about the principles involved.
They should all stay here and come back to their home states if they need to get away from D.C. for a while. If the voters
like the war, that's fine. Let the politicians find out from the voters what's going on and stop wasting money and time making
those ridiculous photo-op trips.
I don't give a damn how many times Lindsey Graham goes to Iraq or Afghanistan when he and the administration purposely
leave our borders at home open for enemy agents to infiltrate. It's idiotic. They're obviously more concerned about making
sure the multi-nationals get their taxpayer money in Iraq than protecting us here at home.
After all, securing our borders is the fundamental job of the Federal government. It is the most important aspect of
"the common defense."
When the number of people--innocent civilians and law enforcement personnel--that are dying here at home from the ill
effects of open borders are more than the number of soldiers dying in Iraq, there's something completely perverted in the
implementation of the powers of the Federal government.
NSC: You're cynical.
AMERICAN CITIZEN: Of government and politicians, yes. When you're dealing with powerful governing entities that the
Founding Fathers considered inherently evil and in need of constant watching over by the people, you've got to be cynical.
It's only healthy to be so. It's the proper American attitude. The people need to put a virtual choke hold on politicians
or they'll bite us in the ass every time.
NSC: You were definitely heard Monday evening by everyone in the room. Why didn't you get up front and in his face?
AMERICAN CITIZEN: Because, frankly, I'm not good in those sorts of confrontations. I'm basically a very shy guy and I
didn't want to choke. It was easier for me to be at the back. And, as it turned out, it was a lot more effective. More
than anything, I hate not being able to hear someone asking a question in the very front of the room. I wanted to make sure
I was heard by everyone there and being in the back, I was.
NSC: I can assure you of that. Your voice boomed. You weren't shrill and you didn't really seem to be shouting in the
usual sense of the word. You were just very loud as though you had our own personal loudspeaker.
AMERICAN CITIZEN: [Laughs.] I've been told that by others. I've heard that's a bit of a genetic rarity. I just figured
it was the way God wanted man to communicate. Whenever I've needed to be heard over long distances, I have always been able
to project my voice quite clearly.
I once nearly knocked a girl over--she literally stumbled when I yelled her name. It turned out that I had startled her
quite badly. It was a funny thing to see happen since she wasn't hurt.
At a factory where I once worked, there were some fellows who would beg me to boom out another fellow's name just for
fun. I'd throw them a bone every once in a while and make his name bounce off the sheet metal walls a few times.
NSC: You seemed fairly calm when you were booming Graham.
AMERICAN CITIZEN: I was nervous and my palms were sweating. But more than that, I was angry. That overrode the nervousness.
If a shy person like me can confront him, ANYONE can work up the nerve to confront him. If I had stuttered or faltered,
I would have kept on talking anyway.
Some may call it heckling but I wasn't personally insulting him. I was sticking to the issues and he couldn't answer
truthfully. I revealed weakness in him and others saw that too. And I wasn't mean. After all, I didn't keep pressing him
until he started crying--this time.
NSC: I think he only cries for illegal aliens. He doesn't cry for US citizens.
AMERICAN CITIZEN INTERVIEW PART 2 (CLICK HERE.)
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